Comment from: Aunt Bann [Visitor]
Aunt Bann

Intresting, to say the least! I’ll probably come back at least once or more, just to understand all you said. I have to think about some of it, too, before I even have a comment.

01/10/15 @ 18:42
Comment from: Lorraine [Visitor]
Lorraine

Diana,
I grieve that you were raised in such an abusive environment. A bright, inquisitive person like you should have had your intellectual light nurtured from the moment you were born.
It speaks volumes of your resolve and downright gumption to get an education, go out into the world, and to accomplish what you have and are accomplishing.
-Lorraine

01/10/15 @ 19:04
Comment from: diana [Member]

Lorraine, thank you for the compliment, but I’m not sure I’d call it an “abusive” environment–not based on this, anyway. My therapist, after hearing a fraction of what I’ve just described, termed my upbringing “spiritually abusive,” which I merely find interesting. From the inside looking out, however, people who believe like that are simply dedicated to following/obeying the Lord with all their might, and certainly do not see what they’re doing as “abusive” in any sense.

I do understand why you might understand it that way, though, and many of my Christian friends see it the same, and clearly feel that, had I been raised in a less literal, less legal strain of religion, I might not be an atheist.

Perhaps that is true. I cannot say.

Michelle and I were discussing child abuse yesterday morning, because she’s reading The Wild Truth, the book by Chris McCandless’s sister about their upbringing and why he left to go Into The Wild. The book is a study of child abuse, on the level–according to many people–of A Child Called It. Michelle reads these books but I cannot stomach them. Michelle remarked that, had my upbringing been different, I might want and have my own family. (She finds it interesting that my big brother is also childless, and my little brothers have, erm, “troubled” families. None of us have what could possibly be termed a “normal, functional family,” by any stretch. Frankly, until she mentioned it, I never saw it in that light.)

I think you both make interesting points (if I understand yours correctly), but again…I cannot say. I only know what is, not what might have been if.

d

01/11/15 @ 10:09
Comment from: Jam [Visitor]
Jam

Interestingly enough, I learned all about the Stone-Campbell movement when going to a CoC in Japan. For some reason these non-American CoC folk, while still super conservative and anti-everything, are more comfortable with the actual history behind the denomination.

01/12/15 @ 22:36
Comment from: diana [Member]

Intriguing, Jamie.

I’d never heard of it until Mich and I got together. She was raised Church of Christ and at some point decided to look into it (I’m not sure what provoked her research), and had discovered…well…the less-than-1st-Century origin. I’d long since left the COC and also long since understood and accepted that I was an atheist, but this was still mind-boggling to me. I mean, the origin of the sect is even quite recent. And yet, I’m sure that most COCers have never even heard of Stone-Campbell.

d

01/13/15 @ 00:57


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