Comment from: monokid [Visitor]
monokid

As much as I love the continent I was born on, Italy has always demanded a love/hate relationship from someone abroad.

The people are chauvinistic, not annoyingly (and unwarranted) like the French, but in a sleek, mustaches-and-thick-black-oily-hair-and-smiles kind of way. The traffic is just madness, the prices off the scales, when it comes to a decent price/quality, but they *DO* have a pretty damn good idea on how to enjoy life. The food, the wine, the weather, the everlasting attitude of “I’ll do that later” and the few words you need no to know are “scuzie", “mille grazie” and …"pagare".

Most people in the Western-Western (as in: the colder, more boring end of Europe… ie: my corner of yurops) regard Italy as an ideal country for holidays.
For middle-aged people.
For a stay no longer than two weeks.

Kudos on lasting there for so long. I would’ve picked the south of Spain if I wanted some californication’esque experience and Finland if I wanted to feel like a I stranded on another planet.

Oh and, when pronouncing “Europa” to a native English speaker, everyone pretty much just says “Yourup", like you do. Unless they want to be dicks and insist on pronouncing it in their native tongue, which makes it a vast array or pronouncations. Uh’rop, uhroo(="eau")pah, Yuh’rooh’pah’, yuw’rooh’pah,…

04/27/12 @ 06:24
Comment from: Hinermad [Visitor]
Hinermad

BDUs and combat boots which (stop me if I’m wrong) were made for hikes

Diana,

I don’t know about being made for hikes. I’d say they’re more made to survive hikes. I saw an article earlier this week that the Australian military is switching from boots to sneakers because the recruits are getting ‘way more shin splints than they used to. The doctors say it’s because they grew up wearing sneaks instead of more substantial footwear like previous generations did.

That’s funny about the response to your offer of a 5 km walk. That’s only an hour even for me. But I think some people (me for one) aren’t intimidated by the distance or effort so much as the time. If I could walk the distance in the same time I can drive it, walking would be a no-brainer. (I’d also be an Olympic hero.) In your particular case I’d have probably accepted though, because walking for an hour is still faster that waiting 2 hours for the bus.

Dave

04/27/12 @ 07:12
Comment from: Jam [Visitor]
Jam

before I got my bike, I would walk to work and back every day. It’s about 5 km, and took an hour and ten minutes if you include stopping and waiting for pedestrian lights in the city centre to turn green.

the cycle takes about 15 minutes if you hit enough green lights in a row.

regardless, I think anything within like five miles or ten kilometres is “walking distance” and anything within like 40 km is “cycling distance". But people regularly baulk when I say I cycled 20 km to get somewhere, or that I walked for an hour to get somewhere. people are silly.

04/27/12 @ 12:38
Comment from: diana [Member]

Interesting point about the combat boots, Dave. When I went through OTS, we got boots that were basically glorified tennis shoes. They were quite comfy for marching, but they wore out quickly. Also, they didn’t offer the ankle and leg protection needed with real combat boots. But for long hikes? They were still pretty brutal. I did the Bataan Memorial Death March in Las Cruces, New Mexico, in them. It’s marathon length. My feet were brutalized, as you might imagine. I chalk that up to the fact that I’m not a soldier; I don’t train with long marches and I don’t know the tricks to prep and protect my feet during them.

Didn’t know. Now I do. I talked with many soldiers during the march, and they passed on their wisdom. It was too late that time, but in the future, I know what to do.

And yeah…I understand not walking to get somewhere when driving is faster and easier. That so wasn’t the case here, though–as you noted–which is why I’m baffled. Also? I’d hope you’d walk with me just because we have so much to talk about. :)

Jamie, you and I have roughly the same notion of what distances are acceptable for walking/cycling. I might make my cycling distance longer, depending on the destination and the need for me to be presentable there, but yeah. 40k is just a good ride.

d

04/27/12 @ 13:04
Comment from: Hinermad [Visitor]
Hinermad

Diana,

An hour with you would be time well spent, no doubt about it. For one things I’d want to learn some of those tricks for long marches. I remember a few from being in Boy Scouts and a friend who was in Special Forces told me about one involving pantyhose, but I’ve never had to put them into practice. Especially the one with pantyhose.

(In case you’re wondering, you cut the legs off above the knees and wear them to prevent inner thigh chafing.)

Dave

04/27/12 @ 13:32
Comment from: diana [Member]

HAHAHAHAHAHA. Really?!

I heard a pantyhose one, but it was just the opposite: wear them as a second skin under wool socks to drastically reduce chafing on the feet.

Do soldiers really have problems with inner thigh chafing?

I’ve also heard that if a soldier knows a long march is ahead, he’ll rub turpentine on his feet after he showers for a few days to help toughen up the skin. Me, I think there’s really no replacement for doing long hikes wearing the boots you’ll march in and toughing up the feet the natural way (which I did not do before that marathon hike, and I paid for it with burst and ripped off blisters around both heels, across the balls of both feet, and by losing three toenails. It was character-building.)

d

04/27/12 @ 14:04
Comment from: Hinermad [Visitor]
Hinermad

Do soldiers really have problems with inner thigh chafing?

Diana,

That’s what he claimed, but this guy was never one to let the truth stand in the way of a good story. (grin) But he was a Green Beret stationed in Germany, and there wasn’t a lot of soldiering to do except for what the chain of command could think of to keep them occupied. He turned into quite the adrenaline junkie (sez he) because of the skydiving and snow skiing exercises they’d go on.

When I was a Scout they taught us about using thin silk socks under the wool ones to reduce chafing and help keep your feet warmer. None of us could afford silk, but we found out men’s thin rayon or Lycra dress socks were a lot cheaper and worked just as well.

I agree with you about training in what you’ll wear on the long march. Whenever I’d get a new pair of leather hiking boots I’d go walk a hundred yards or so in a creek until they were drenched, then walk in them until the leather was dry. The leather would mold itself to my feet and fit perfectly after doing that a few times.

I did a 6 mile winter hike in hilly terrain in steel-toed work boots once. My calves were miserable for days afterwards.

Dave

04/27/12 @ 17:59


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