travis and the ins and outs of living arrangements
By diana on Jan 17, 2010 | In capricious bloviations
My cousin moved in about three months ago. I wish all such arrangements worked as well, but if they did, this one wouldn't be so special.
I'm told that the best way to lose a friend is to be roommates with her. For the most part, sadly, I think that's true.
I lived with my best friend once for several months. We were in college together. The arrangements were fairly loose: she'd bought a trailer house and only paid lot rent (which was dirt cheap, pun intended), so she asked me to just pitch in with utilities, groceries, and help take care of her dogs. It was a great deal, and I took it (also because I'd missed her terribly for several years and just wanted to spend time with her again).
For the most part, everything worked wonderfully. When the bills came in, we split them down the middle. We split the lot rent. We went running together. We enjoyed the same shows on TV. We went grocery shopping together (and split the bill, regardless of how much either of us normally ate.
Then she got a girlfriend, and our relationship shifted almost imperceptibly, but--in my view--dramatically. If I were sitting in the living room chatting with them and something I said made her girlfriend laugh, my friend (?) would lash out at me as though I'd just hit on her girlfriend (!), or something equally "not done." It was strange, unexpected, vicious, and upsetting. I didn't know how to begin responding to her comments, so I stopped spending time with the two of them if I could; when I did, I emotionally distanced myself, because said friend would insult me in ways that might have been acceptable and even funny between the two of us, but was inappropriate and mean with the girlfriend present. Eventually, I moved out. We remained friends, but our relationship never really recovered.*
* And I don't know how anymore. When I shut out someone over a period of months or years, there comes a point when I don't know how to open that door again--and I'm not sure it's wise, anyway.
So about three months ago (I don't remember exactly when), Travis moved in. He's my cousin.* He wanted to move away from home (he's 27 and going to school, so he's independent but it just made more sense for him to stay at home with his parents rather than get an apartment) and this place has more than enough room.
* Technically, first cousin, once removed. That is, he's my first cousin's son.
Like all older folks,* I like my space and my solitude, and I don't leap at the notion of a roommate anymore. I made an exception for Travis because he's...well, he's cool. We're like-minded (religiously, politically, how we think, and what we like to do**). He's far more pleasant to be around than I am (something he gets from his mother, I think), and far, far smarter (but he doesn't flaunt it). He's also quiet and neat, and helps out around the house without me asking him. And he's just good company all around (and very funny, so what's not to love?).
* 30-ish and above, I guess.
** Much of which are solitary activities, such as reading. But we like riding bicycles and watching movies together, too.
The arrangement is working out wonderfully. He buys groceries occasionally to pitch in, but for the most part, he just makes sure the fresh produce in the crisper doesn't go bad. He cleans the theater and kitchen and such from time to time, and we spend a lot of time in the basement watching films and TV series on Netflix.
I can't imagine anything happening in this situation which might endanger our relationship. Actually, since he moved in, we've become much closer. I like to think such a development is possible in every situation, but I know better. I just got a lesson about how living arrangements can sometimes not work out.
I'd arranged to stay with a friend in Boulder during the week this semester. This was a friend I've liked a great deal from the moment we met. We're around the same age. We're liberals. We're atheists. She and her hubby are vegetarians; I'm vegan. She and her hubby take very good care of themselves, and so do I. We enjoy the same sort of humor. She's smart and self-possessed. We're both English grad students, etc. She lives in Boulder, and kindly offered me a place to stay a couple of times last semester when a nasty snowstorm was inbound. I didn't take her up on the offer, but the offer meant a lot.
When I realized that I'd be taking classes Tuesday through Thursday this semester, I asked if we might be able to work out an arrangement in which I stay with them at least some of the time. She said it would be fine; they have a guest room and I was welcome to it. We ironed out the details via Facebook PMs. I was to not cook meat in their kitchen (no problem), and such. I wrote and said I'd pitch in for groceries. She said that was good.
It was perfect. She and hubby live about 10 minutes from campus on the local bus (which is free for us students, anyway), and such an arrangement would not only allow me to spend time with someone I thought highly of and enjoyed tremendously, but would also free up more time for me to study (and perhaps even to hang out with the other grad students occasionally).
I drove up the first day of my classes, stopped at King Soopers and picked up some soy milk, cereal, and coffee creamer, as well as some toiletries, and went to their townhome. She was at work and her husband was away on business. I found the occasional helpful comment on notebook paper to train me to the rules of the household. Things like, "Please remove your shoes as moisture damages the floors." I'd already been through this when she'd shown me through her home a few weeks before, but the reminder was helpful.
I went up to "my" room (the guest room) and carefully unpacked my things. I took the towel, hand towel, and washrags to the bathroom and carefully arranged them, stacking the unneeded ones on the vanity. I laid out my toiletries--of which there are few--neatly. Then I freshened up, grabbed my school things, and caught the bus to school.
My first class of the semester, multicultural literature, was short (as first classes of the semester often are), so I returned and settled onto the dining room table with my laptop, waiting for her. I hadn't bought anything for dinner, and rather thought that it would be nice to take her out for dinner, as this was the first time we'd seen one another since the end of last semester (a bit over two weeks, I guess), and also because it seemed a simple enough gesture to someone who was opening her home to me for the semester. Besides, I'd had a good lunch and wasn't very hungry. So I enjoyed one of her husband's beers--or two, as I was waiting two hours--while I waited. Meanwhile, I played with their dog (an awesome creature, as sweet as he is big) and IM'd friends, read emails, and perused my syllabus for the semester.
She'd left a detailed explanation of where she was (again, this is awesome for houseguests; I've actually house-sat several people who didn't provide so much necessary information), so I fed the dog, as per her request, and awaited her arrival.
She came in around 8:30pm. I went to give her a hug.* but she said she was sweaty. We began chatting immediately. She's one of those people. She's been everywhere and done everything,** and tells awesome stories. Plus, she's a smartass, which I love.
* My cousin asked me a week or two ago when I became such a hugger. Honestly...I really don't know. But hugs between friends are good. I've come to believe I don't get enough (and thus, my friends must not get enough).
** OK. Not everywhere and everything, but you get the idea. I'm at least decently traveled, and she makes me look like a homebody.
She asked me to put something between my computer and the tabletop, as it was not finished, but protected with a wax coating. The tabletop was warm, which with wax, is enough to necessitate a new coating. I felt guilty, apologized, and quickly scrambled to correct my oversight.
We kept talking. She had originally planned to take one of the classes I'm taking this semester, but had found out that she could take another* in its stead. I was disappointed that we wouldn't have a class together. I already knew she was taking only one class this semester, due to personal constraints. Call me selfish, but I wanted that class to be one I was also taking.
* Travel literature, which is perfect for her. Remember how I said she's been everywhere and done everything? Yeah. :)
About 20 minutes had elapsed, maybe more. She placed a plate on the other side of the table--for her dinner--with half an avocado and a tomato neatly sliced, dribbled with extra virgin olive oil, and fresh-cracked pepper. It looked like something you'd be served in a restaurant. I glanced at it and said, "That looks delicious. Do you have any more?"
She said, "Yes, but it's my lunch for tomorrow." We both looked to the counter where another tomato and half an avocado sat.
I said, "I can bring you lunch tomorrow. My class doesn't begin until 1 o'clock. It won't be any trouble."
She said, "Well...my day tomorrow is a bit hectic.*I work on East Campus**, and it's my boss's birthday...."
* As with all dialogue, I hope to capture the idea and feeling, although I admit I'm incapable of remembering the exact words. If I misrepresent her, it isn't intentional.
** East Campus is administrative, and a decent distance from the main student center.
I said, "OK. I understand. No problem. Please...keep your lunch. I won't take your lunch. I'm fine." And I was. I'd thought a bite to eat would be nice, but I often skip dinner. It isn't a big deal to me.
She said, "You have to eat, Diana. There's a grocery store at the corner...."
I said, "I know. That's ok. I'm fine. Thanks, though. Don't worry. I'm ok." And I meant it. (In retrospect, however, I can see how she thought I might have just been trying to make her feel like it was all right when in fact it was not.)
She said, "Did you expect room and board?"
It sounded like she was quasi-joking (plus--stupid me--I didn't really understand what room and board entailed*), so I--joking back--said, "Yeah."
* Yeah. I know it's stupid. But it's true. I've always seen this term as redundant, something like "right and proper" or "way, shape or form." I was a respectable age before I realized that "flora and fauna" weren't the same thing, too.
She, apparently not seeing any of it as jokes, said, "Well, you will have to buy your own food."
I said, "Wait. What does 'room and board' mean?"
She said, "'Room' is the roof over your head. 'Board' is the food."
I said, "Oh. In that case, no. I expect to buy food."
At some point through here, I just went back to the table and turned the discussion back to her class. She'd handed me the syllabus earlier, and I simply returned to it. We talked about the things she'd like to write about, and what I thought she should write about (which she thinks are a bit boring :D), and so forth. I'd completely forgotten about dinner when she set a plate in front of me identical to the one she'd prepared before.
I said, "Thank you, but you didn't have to." And I began to eat.
In the kitchen, she leaned against the counter, bracing herself with both hands, and told me what the rules and expectations were in her home. If I drank anything or ate anything that I had not bought, I was expected to replace it immediately. For the most part, I was to buy everything I ate. I would not only buy my own food, but cook my own food and clean up after myself....
I don't remember the whole thing. I tried to stop her with "Yeah. I got it. I got it. You're misunderstanding me. I didn't expect you to feed me."
She pointed out that, while she and her husband enjoy company, they are giving up their privacy to help me, because it was a bit crazy for me to travel from and to Colorado Springs every day, and it would cost a lot for me to get a hotel, but because of this, I wasn't a guest so much as a roommate, and the expectations for a roommate are different. I said, "Yes, I know. I expected to be a roommate." She said, "I saw you as a roommate more than a guest, which means you clean up after yourself, you make your bed....."
I don't remember what all she said. I was deeply hurt by this point. I couldn't keep it together anymore. Rarely do I find myself in a situation where a friend so seriously misinterprets me, then...well, lectures me. So yeah. I cried. I told her I apparently needed to go to bed, and good night. I picked up my computer and backpack and went upstairs.
In "my" room, I shut the door. My first thought was that I should pack my things and leave. Now. It didn't matter where I went. I just needed to run from this...this...whatever was happening. Then I thought, no. I will handle this maturely. When I have achieved a different frame of mind, perhaps in the morning, after a good night's sleep (as it had been a somewhat emotional day for me before all this), I'd be ready to deal with it like a rational being.
I was chatting online with a friend when she knocked and, at my invitation, entered. She apologized (several times) for upsetting me, but. That's the key, I think. "I'm sorry I upset you, but...." She reiterated that she'd envisioned me as a roommate, not a guest (I said, "Yes, I had, too"). I was expected to buy my own food, cook it, and clean up after myself. They (her and the hubby) enjoyed houseguests....
I had, by this point, tried to explain yet again that this was just a misunderstanding. By this point, I was sitting in bed with my palms over my face. I don't like to cry in front of anyone; I never have. Covering my face was the only way I knew to cling to any dignity. She went on, repeating her expectations. She said, "There are Kleenex in the nightstand." I said thank you, but didn't move. I was waiting for her to leave. At some point she brought me a warm washcloth for my eyes, and set the Kleenex out. I said thank you, but didn't move much. Then she went back to explaining. She's sorry she hurt my feelings, but if she hadn't said anything about me expecting to be fed, after a couple of weeks, she'd have asked her husband to ask me to leave.
Around this point, I said, "Good night."
She left, closing the door gently after her. I was tired, emotionally drained. I logged off shortly thereafter and slipped into a fitful sleep.
I woke the next morning, feeling much better. I had a whole different frame of mind. I figured that, in the cold light of day, she and I could iron out our differences. I just didn't understand all the rules. That's all. We'd gotten off to a rough start. We could discuss our expectations more frankly now, and we'd be fine.
On this note, I went to take a shower. When I walked out of the room, I said, loudly, "Hello? Anybody home?" I wanted to get the day off on a good note, if possible. There was no answer. I went into the bathroom and shut the door. I took a shower, which put me into an even better frame of mind. Then I squeegeed the shower.*
* OK. I was thinking, this is nuts. It isn't part of my regular routine by any stretch, but I didn't know if this was expected or not. So I did it. I'd actually begun wiping down the shower with my washrag when I noticed the squeegee.
I completely my toilette, then carefully arranged everything. I straightened my toothbrush and toothpaste. I adjusted the towel on the rack. I went back to my room (and it's a beautiful room, in a beautiful home) and made the bed to make it look like no one had been there. Then I consolidated everything I owned to my luggage, took my backpack, and went downstairs for breakfast.
I met her and a friend as I walked through the kitchen. As I walked past her, I said, "Good morning" in what I hoped was a cheerful delivery. I had high hopes for the day. She said, "Good morning," but she seemed distracted. I remember thinking it was strange that she was there as, when she hadn't responded, I thought she was probably working. The presence of her friend, oddly, didn't make much of an impression on me at that time. I didn't know her schedule well and thought they might have just taken the dog out for a walk and were just getting back.
I walked around the counter to pour some cereal, but before I could fetch a bowl, she--on the other side of the counter--said, "Diana, I dropped down to one class this semester and gave up a teaching position.*" She went on about how she will have some unavoidable personal engagements this semester that will, in themselves, be stressful. She'd thought it would be ok to have me here, but we clearly have different expectations. I expected to be a "guest" and she expected I'd be a "roommate".....
* Which is a huge deal for grad students. A teaching position pays tuition, some health insurance, and an extra stipend to boot.
By this point, I was struggling to control myself. It was back, the messed up communcation from the night before. Before I lost control completely, I said, "So when do you want me to leave?"
Before she could take a breath, her friend said, "Right now, if you don't mind."
I said, "No. That's fine. It's her home. I'll get my things."
Her friend--who I'd met briefly before and liked, as well, frankly--said, "She's been my friend for a long time, and she's very sensitive."
I nodded and walked upstairs, consolidated my things, threw them on my shoulder, and came downstairs, straightening the stair mats* as I went.
* The dog slips if they come off, but anyone and the dog misplaces them when going upstairs.
I gathered my cereal, my soy milk, and my coffee creamer in a bag. I asked if it was ok if I left my truck where it was in the parking lot until after school. She said it was ok. My friend said something again about how she was sorry for the misunderstanding; she thought it would be a roommate situation and I thought I'd be a guest. I said, "You still don't understand. That's ok. It's probably better this way." I stooped to zip my travel bag. I was trembling.
Her friend said, "Do you want to dry your hair?"
I said, "No. It's ok. I never do."
My friend said, "I don't ever, either." Her friend offered me a ride to school because of my wet hair; I said no thanks. But it was a nice gesture, anyway. Someone said something about letting the dog in now, which struck me as odd; the dog and I got along just fine....
I picked up my bag, said something about shutting the gate after me, then realized it shut easier from the outside. I excused myself, put the housekey back, then left.
***
I caught the bus to school. I was ok, I said to me. It's a misunderstanding. It can happen to anyone. It isn't a big deal. It'll blow over. But I fought the trembling. I thought about getting off the bus and walking to school. I forced myself to think about something else.
At school, I contacted Lisarea, a friend in Broomfield I haven't been in touch with for a long time.* I'd dropped a line to her a month or two back, saying I was going to college in Boulder, and would they mind if I crashed with them occasionally. She wrote back and said something along the lines of absolutely!--then something witty, of course. So last Tuesday, I wrote from school and said, "This is short notice, but do you have a place for me to crash tonight?"
* I'd no idea how long. It's been two, maybe three years. She and her "hubby" are good friends, who I think highly of. I don't know how I managed to let so much time get by without contacting or visiting them.
She wrote back and said, "Oh! Tonight might not be good. My mother is staying with us right now and I can't go downstairs to check....*, but if you're really desperate we can clear a spot for you somewhere."
* Not her exact words, although this was all via PM, and I can access her exact words if I want. Seems fair. :)
I wrote back to say I'd look around, but I didn't require much more than 8 square feet (in any configuration), and I'd holler if I really needed to impose. As it turns out, I crossposted with Lisa; she said her mom said there was a whole 'nother room downstairs and when should they expect me? Or something along those lines. I wrote that I was inbound, and would pick up some food and such en route.
I showed up with a batch of ripe avocados and organic tomatoes, as well as some wine. We were up and talking until past midnight. I've missed them.*
* I'm a crappy friend in that respect--I don't keep in touch or visit when it's convenient, because I get so caught up in my life. The beauty of this relationship is, Lisa says she is, too. We'll be close 'til we die.
It wasn't until I got to school the next day that I checked my private messages and learned that she'd said to not bother bringing anything; they had food and needed to make a run anyway.
I left some tomatoes and avocado there. I sent her a PM saying I need to come in a day early, as I have some research to do at the library at Boulder. She said, "I hope you don't mind, but I've been drinking your soy milk. We'll pick up some more." I wrote back to ask her to please eat the avocado I left.
She wrote back this:"Oh, OK. I will, but just as a personal favor to you."
Then, in a "spoiler"--a function on internet discussion forums that allows you to click it if you want to read--she said, "I already did! I was hungry and it was looking at me."
While I regret what transpired between my Boulder friend and I--and sincerely hope we can mend it, because she's an awesome person--maybe this is all working out for the best, after all.
I can only hope that I didn't lose this friend by trying--for less than 24 hours, as it turns out--to live with her.
d
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Sounds to me like your Boulder “friend” is more of a “fair-weather friend” than a true friend. The one in Broomfield, however, is one actually worth keeping.
Keep writing, Dear. I enjoy reading! (And it seems that is all I’ll be able to do, for most of our lives, now, anyway!)
You know, I’ve lost a friend by living with her, too. I still don’t know how to mend that, or if I even want to. I do think that Lisarea’s is where you are meant to hang out - sorry about the friend in Boulder.
You definitely ended up where you were meant to be. Your Boulder friend seems to not really think things through… AH well, ce la vie.
Hi Diana,
How terribly upsetting.
It also sounds like your “roommate not host” is going through something you may know nothing about. Giving up her much-needed job etc seem like clues to me that she is hanging on by her fingernails and your presence, that might have been a joy at another time, just jangled her more. She may be persnickety to begin with or it may be a sign of, or exacerbated by, whatever it is in her life that is causing her such turmoil.
I have had friends who are wonderful people but who need a high degree of order to be able to feel at ease with the world. Others assume that everyone would know things like what a waxed table looks like and how to care for one. (Not me.) We often assume our friends have similar values and knowledge only to be confronted with a blunt surprise when they conflict.
It is hard to know what to do with your friend but my guess is that some kind statements at a time when she needs understanding might not go amiss though it is hard to do when one feels so wounded. I don’t know if I could put aside my hurt enough to respond by saying it sounds like she’s going through a hard time right now and I hope I didn’t make it harder. If she owns up to it, the life you save…
Of course, I’m a zillion miles away, and could be totally off base. Whatever the reason for her behaviour, I can certainly understand why you were upset. My wish for you is that the new in-town roomie works out better.
Cheers
Lorraine
Great post, Lorraine.
I was hurt and angry (which, in my experience, always comes from pain) at first, but after the first 48 hours or so, I was able to see what you seem to automatically see. ;) I could imagine Dave–whereever he is, I hope he’s well–responding similarly.
This friend does require a high degree of order to feel comfortable, and I would not have been able to provide that, and if I could, I certainly would not have been able to sustain it. My friend and I come from very different cultures, as you point out. I believe–I hope, at least–we can remain friends, but just not living under the same roof.
She already has a full-time job. She gave up a teach position, though, which most grad students (present company excluded) try to get for at least one semester for the experience. There are other factors involves which are stressful to her, though, as you point out. (Obviously, I omitted the details as well as her name out of respect for her privacy.)
This is not aimed at you but at all my readers: This piece was meant to express my pain and disappointment (writing is an emotional outlet for me), not castigate her in any way. We’re just very different people.
d
Hi Diana,
It sounds like you have a good sense of perspective on this whole thing. And, by the way, your post in no way seemed a criticism of her. Your sense of bewilderment came through clearly. One never likes to be blind-sided, to have it happen when one is tired and supposedly in a safe, comfortable spot with a friend is all the more discombobulating, not to mention, painful.
Cheers,
Lorraine
Hi Diana,
Me again. You’ve really made me think, examine things. Life is filled with wonder, discovery and bewilderment as children because they are trying to decipher the world. It often seemed like when we would watch the adults play cards, trying to figure out what was significant and what the rules of the game were just from watching and listening. It was hard.
As adults, we have a deep data base of history that lets us make educated assumptions in most situations in life. Those same assumptions that let us operate at full speed, without having to stop to decipher each new situation, can be broad enough to get us into trouble when the fine specifics alter the situation, making our assumptions invalid. If that makes sense.
What you assumed going into that roommate situation was reasonable. Probably, so too were the home-owner’s. Different data sets, different experiences clashed once you two were in close proximity.
On another tack, I do see cultural differences causing everything from minor annoyances to wars. Most Canadians wouldn’t help themselves to another person’s fridge contents without asking specifically first. We have some American friends, very ebullient outgoing fellows, and when one or the other of them (they are each half of a different cross-border couple) is visiting, I often feel invaded. He will walk into the kitchen, start rooting through my cutlery drawer complaining that he can’t find something, like a cork screw to open a bottle of wine he’s seen or a knife to cut the bread we’ve set out on the side board for later. It’s all I can do to not smack his fingers like a schoolmarm and dismiss him from the kitchen, turning him towards the living room. Feeling invaded is my issue, not his. It does point out a subtle cultural difference in people I otherwise quite like but tend to only have over when we can all stay in the backyard, i.e., the summer. Here endeth the rant.
Cheers
Lorraine
Diana,
You know me well. (Grin) Yes, Lorraine made the point that I would make, that your friend may have had other sources of stress that left her with few resources to deal with a perceived invasion - even one that was invited.
(Lorraine may have the wisdom to see things like this automatically, and I respect her greatly for that. In my case, I had to learn the hard way.)
Another point I’d make is that sometimes a person doesn’t know where their own boundaries are until someone else bumps into them. Your friend may have been quite sincere in wanting to help you out, and not realized until later what it would cost her emotionally by having to surrender some control of her environment. (I’ve seen my daughter overcommit that way. It was heartbreaking to watch her deal with it, but she’s learned and is stronger now for it.)
I doubt you’ve lost a friend permanently, but I think a little time and space are in order. When you reconnect you probably won’t need to bring up this episode unless she needs to talk about it. Bygones, etc.
Aside to Lorraine: Your American friends may have a common attitude about making themselves at home, but it’s not universal. I wouldn’t dream of rummaging around in Linda’s kitchen without asking first. Also, I don’t think it would be out of line for you to explain the house rules to your guests. Other people don’t know where our boundaries are, either, unless we tell them. Sometimes a warning shot across the bow is necessary, but usually a simple “I’d rather you ask first” is enough.
Dave
Thank you all so much for your perspectives! I truly have some amazing friends. :)
I have, I think, gotten over the hurt now, and much of that is thanks to your thoughtful comments and suggestions (although I do think a couple of good nights’ sleep–izzat grammatical?–goes a long way, too).
Also, good to see you, Dave! I was on the verge of sending an email to make sure everything was still well with you. I hope you had a wonderful holiday. :)
d
Hi Diana,
(And Hi Dave)
You make good points. I should remember what I often tell my son that two data points do not a trend make. Thanks for the reminder. In future, I shall remember not to tar all Americans with the same brush. This is an example of how prejudices are born. I would imagine that in a country with such a large population, you may have some variation from person to person.
Glad to hear that time, reflection and sleep have brought you peace, Diana. I hope this week is going well.
Lorraine
Diana,
Thank you. I did have a good holiday. I just needed a bit of a break to get my head back into the sunlight.
It’s amazing what sleep can do for your perspective. I know you know that people usually aren’t difficult on purpose; sometimes they’re just having a bad day. But it takes energy to keep your emotions from clouding your judgment, and when you’re tired that’s hard to do.
BTW, I like the new skin on your blog.
Lorraine: I hope I didn’t sound defensive. That wasn’t my intent, and if I did I’m sorry. I thought your friend’s behavior bordered on being rude. My point was just that some of us need more training than others. (Grin)
Dave
Hi Diana and Hi Dave,
No, I didn’t read defensiveness at all, just information. Up here, we just assume the bombastic visitors are American, the rest we presume are Canadian. (grin)
As far as training visitors goes, it may be the broken X chromosome males bear but that old adage of train ‘em early and train ‘em often doesn’t always work with some, besides, I don’t think it my place to make others conform to ease my discomfort. (That idea’s taking a lot of self-control.) My hints, some quite pointed, have had no results with those two fellows so we just deal with them in different ways. Mostly, we just don’t see much of them or their perfectly lovely families. Considering what delightful company we are, perhaps it’s their loss. (another grin)
Diana, this post has really struck a chord with people, as you can see. It seems that when it’s a personal incident, so lucidly communicated, with your own emotions involved, it really speaks to us. You’d mentioned that you wondered if we were out there listening (reading) because the responses were meager to the global warming post. I may be off base here, but to me it shows that the personal experience and the ensuing emotions engaged us the most. That doesn’t mean you shouldn’t post on world issues that are so important to you. It’s only meant as an attempt at maybe explaining why the difference in responses.
Hope your week finishes out well.
Lorraine
ADDENDUM:
She just wrote to tell me Dave was right (fwiw). The encounter was not enough to end our friendship, but this–writing what happened in an open forum–was. In her opinion, I have presented an incorrect, incredibly biased, one-sided and unfair account of what happened.
I forgot a couple of details when I wrote it (which she reminded me of). I acknowledge that her memory of what I said that night or since and what happened, exactly, differs from mine. (There is a reason eyewitness testimony is so unreliable.)
Anyone who reads this, please know that in every case, I did my best to be fair to her and to understand her point of view. I failed. I told the truth as I remembered it and I included all the relevant details I could remember. Despite this, I forgot some things she feels are relevant. I apologize publicly here and now to her for any unfairness or misrepresentation. They were unintentional.
I understand now that, even when I was deeply emotional and distracted all day after I was asked to leave, I was expected to tell no one why I was upset or why I am now staying in Broomfield. In her words, “People have disagreements; gracious and diplomatic people with decorum work it out between themselves.”
In her view (to tip the bias in her favor a bit here), my thought that we would go to dinner is an excuse and is ridiculous due to her schedule. If that’s what I really had planned, then it was presumptuous of me. (I’d planned to treat her to dinner, actually; it seemed a small enough gesture, considering the sacrifice she was making for me, but that’s neither here nor there.)
In her view, I’ve shown a lack of integrity by not simply admitting that I did expect her to feed me, too, and I was lying about my lifelong misunderstanding about “room and board” (!). I’m too smart to misunderstand such a common phrase.
I’m ingracious, my behavior atrocious. I have shown no sensitivity to her point of view.
That about sums it up, I think. If I have failed to understand anything here, it certainly wasn’t for lack of effort. (Oh and, Lorraine was also on the money: she would never think of helping herself to anyone’s home without being expressly invited to do so. Until this experience, this was a foreign concept to me among friends.)
She probably thinks this is a lie, as well. How do you convince someone you aren’t lying? You don’t. :(
d
Diana,
In a few rare cases it’s possible to demonstrate you’re not lying through your actions. But it’s a long shot, and it presumes you’d have opportunities to do so.
I’m sorry both of you had to learn this about each other.
Dave
Nah, just been there and lived to tell the tale.
“There ain’t no good guy, there ain’t no bad guy, there’s only you and me and we just disagree.”
Dave
Hi, Daughter!
I almost came to tears reading your problems, and mulled over it for several days. I have,, unfortunately, had to face things of that nature. In my home, and as I remember growing up, if someone was in our home, they could help themselves. You may remember that Mike G. sometimes walked in the front door, and went to the refrigerator before even saying ‘Hi". No problem to us. He ate 3 meals a day at our house for several weeks, and that was fine too, except we were running out of money and groceries feeding him that much. We had to ask him to help, if he was going to eat 3 meals a day. He quit for a while, then came back or several meals a week. Ayear or two ago, at a gospel meeting he was preaching, he introduced us as his ’surragate parents.’ I never knew he felt that way about us, but we (Mother, Noel, and I) sang at his wedding. It was an honor.
There is mmore to tell along this line, involving other people, and responses I did not expect, and had never been led to expect, over the course of over 40 years of very close friendship and love. It happens to us all. Glad to see Dave and Lorraine have helped. Thanks to both of you. D
Diana, I apparently had never read this post, and I don’t want to remind you of the hurt you felt at the time. Hopefully, you and your “friend” have either drifted apart or have come to an understanding, of some sort. My “take” on the entire episode, while you were at her house, though, was that she had never thought that you might be there when she had a male friend there, and she wasn’t prepared to have both of you there at the same time. Therefore, she had to get rid of you, in order to keep him.
I’m probably completely off base, and I AM happy that you came to an understanding eventually. Just goes to show that some people are not sincere when they accept the possiblity of one of their friends coming to stay overnight!
Love you!
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