Comment from: Jeff [Visitor]
Jeff

Damn D. You just hit so many nails on their respective heads that I don’t know where to start. Fine piece of writing. I humbly bow.

05/19/10 @ 20:50
Comment from: Matt [Visitor]
Matt

Gay people want the special right of being equal. But how about all the gays who do awful stuff like……. (fill in with some random percentages of some deeply flawed or misunderstood study).

Don’t forget, veterans fought in wars to keep the gay down (the logical flip side to the “i didn’t fight in ______ War so that the military could be infested with the gay” argument).

If you let gays in the military, something something something downfall of society and America.

Gayness is a choice it is said. So remember, every razor straight guy out there in his past, has considered fellating other guys and turned it down.

And remember, it’s all about FREEDOM as your hot cousin said. Unless it’s tinged in gay.

05/19/10 @ 21:05
Comment from: Aunt Bann [Visitor]
Aunt Bann

Hmmmmm. Wonder where he has been all these years, when the gays were being kept from declaring that they were gay. I don’t know that I ever knew anyone personally that was gay, when I was growing up; however, I’m sure that there were many in the area who had to go along with the “norm” and deny that they preferred their own sex to someone of the opposite sex. That was what people did, “back then", and I’m glad that we are no longer forced to claim to be someone we aren’t, regardless of our sexual orientation, religious convictions (or lack thereof) and all other differences in belief and attitude! That is one of the reasons America is the great country it is: the ability of her people to work, laugh, live, love, play, etc. together as team members, regardless of their differences. May we always have the right to make our own choices, in all things, without being forced to conform to a “norm” that may not be anywhere close to a norm!

Yes, breaking the law should still be a crime. However, sexual orientation is not something that can be ordered, as if it had something to do with living peaceably with others. Every person has the right to make certain personal decisions; to realize who they are and what “category” they belong in is part of that right.

You make a good case, Diana. And I agree with your argument. Keep writing!

05/19/10 @ 21:21
Comment from: Hinermad [Visitor]
Hinermad

But this is the part I don’t get. Why are they afraid of homosexuals? Help me here.

Because it is every homosexual’s goal to recruit God-fearing young men and women and twist them into willing subjects for their perverse pleasures. At least that’s how it was explained to me when I wanted to join Boy Scouts. (Mom believed the rumors about one of the assistant Scoutmasters of our local troop - a relative of hers, no less.)

I think for the average middle American the idea of homosexuality is so foreign (and has been so reviled) that it’s almost impossible to think about clearly, let alone ask someone about. (Because, after all, if you ask a gay what it’s like he’ll try to recruit you, right? Just look down, don’t make eye contact…) Like anyone who doesn’t want to think about a topic, they’re content to let someone else tell them what to think. There’s no lack of pundits willing to do that.

Dave

05/19/10 @ 21:30
Comment from: Becky [Visitor]
Becky

Change always brings unintended consequences, but with your impeccable logic, spoken from experience . . . for the life of me, I can’t think what they would be.

Well spoken.

05/19/10 @ 21:31
Comment from: diana [Member]

Thanks, Becky. Means a lot. :)

Dave…I don’t know that I’ve ever seen you so sarcastic. Well spoken, mate!

d

05/19/10 @ 21:49
Comment from: Hinermad [Visitor]
Hinermad

Diana,

Thanks, but it was late and my guard was down. (Grin) Also, as I get older (50 on Saturday) I find I have less tolerance for people who have no tolerance. I guess that makes me a hypocrite. (grin)

But I think the strangeness factor does contribute to some people’s fear of homosexuality.

Hmmm. I started to write “fear of homosexuals” there but I think that distinction is part of this issue - people equate the actor with the act, especially for an act they don’t understand, so they end up demonizing the actor.

Dave

05/20/10 @ 07:45
Comment from: Lorraine [Visitor]
Lorraine

Interesting post, Diana. From my vantage point, it is a little like watching the debate about legalising racially mixed marriages or about extending human rights to Irish Catholics. I live where it is not only legal and acceptable to be openly gay, married and in the military but where, for the most part, it is also irrelevant. Once that happens, all sorts of perfectly ordinary people, young and some quite old, turn out to have been gay all along.

Extending human rights, as in the case of those from other religions, nations of origin or skin colours hurts no one except those who gain from bigotry or who feel so powerless they need someone else to spit on.

We are not judged by whom we can exclude in our lives but by whom we include. In other words, it’s not how exclusive your club, or country, is but rather how inclusive it is.

We are far from perfect here but this is one battle that has been fought and one that we hope stays won. The sun still comes up, we still have a good military, we still have as much respect for marriage as ever. The difference is now other humans once denied their rights can rest a little easier and put their energies into participating fully in society without fear of reprisal for being born who they are.

L.

05/20/10 @ 10:01
Comment from: Aunt Bann [Visitor]
Aunt Bann

Lorraine, your summation is just exactly what we have needed for many years, here in the “good old” USA! Thanks for the info that at least one country on this planet is open and aboveboard about what is right (meaning that everyone is really equal!)!

05/21/10 @ 21:53
Comment from: Lorraine [Visitor]
Lorraine

Thank you for the kind words. (I’m not sure what to call you as you aren’t my aunt, as delighted as I would be to have you as a relative.)

Canada is far from alone in this world when it comes to thinking of GLBT people as humans when it comes to human rights. We were not the first country to think this way and, more importantly, have laws that reflect it. Let’s just hope we’re not the last.

Lorraine

05/24/10 @ 01:52
Comment from: Aunt Bann [Visitor]
Aunt Bann

Lorraine, if you don’t feel comfortable calling me Aunt Bann, then you can do what Dave does, and call me Ms.Bann. I’ve been Aunt Bann to all my nieces and nephews since the first one could talk. Mother insisted that they call me my complete name Barbara Ann, with the Aunt in front of it. But they couldn’t say that, so we shortened it to Aunt Bann, and that’s what I’ve been for about 60 years, now. I’m comfortable with anyone who wants to call me that!

05/24/10 @ 21:18
Comment from: Lorraine [Visitor]
Lorraine

Dear Ms. Bann,

I am surprised that you mention being “Aunt Bann” for 60 years as I had assumed by your enlightened ideas and youthful attitude that you were a much younger sibling of one of D’s parents, making you more a contemporary of ours than her parents. Lucky family to have you in it.

Lorraine

05/25/10 @ 20:56
Comment from: Aunt Bann [Visitor]
Aunt Bann

Lorraine, thanks for the compliment! You would have to know more about my family to understand; my parents were determined that all their children would finish high school or be 21 before they quit/got married. My next oldest brother went back to get his senior year after doing his turn in the Navy during WWII. We ALL (all 7 of us) graduated from high school. Three of us graduated from college. I have a master’s degree, and all three of my children graduated from the same college that Diana’s dad and I graduated from. The middle one is now the Assistant Registrar at that same college (their dad taught there for his entire teaching career). My youngest teaches in the high school her children (and her husband’s childre)attend. He also teaches, in that same school.

Does that help to tell you why I’m not stodgy and afraid of life? (I also write, which is something I got from my father.)

05/25/10 @ 23:07
Comment from: Judy [Visitor]
Judy

D, loved reading this… and copied out your resumé for the family history file. :) You are so on the money. (so money you don’t even know it, to quote a movie!)

Judy

05/26/10 @ 09:46
Comment from: diana [Member]

Thanks, Judy. :)

And Aunt Bann…I agree completely! Lorraine writes beautifully. I often wish she had her own blog so I could puppy dog it.

d

05/26/10 @ 15:50


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