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Comment from: Hinermad
Hinermad

Diana,

I’ve always believed the best way to learn a subject is to teach it. Even in medicine the educational process is “see a procedure, do a procedure, teach a procedure.” (Which makes it sound scary because you have students teaching procedures to students. I guess that’s why, after you graduate, you “practice” medicine.) Sounds like you’re having a blast learning.

I’m not getting what you mean by saying the average American uses multiple compound verbs in normal speech. Can you give me an example? (Or is that what I just did instead of writing “I don’t get…"?)

I’m not sure if Americans are so wordy because they like to hear themselves talk, or if they just don’t like silence. We’re pretty good with filling the quiet with noise.

Dave

09/04/06 @ 21:50
Comment from: diana
diana

Yes…you just got it. :)

Gen Y’ers may have more problems with excessive verbiage than the older generation.

We probably use more small words when we speak for a couple of reasons. We can communicate with almost anyone that way. We learn the small words first, and many of us don’t develop our oral skills far past that point. We have a habit of telling stories using continuous verbs (I didn’t notice this until I read some student papers, and now I hear it in normal conversation).

And as Mark Twain said, “I wrote you a long letter because I didn’t have time to write you a short one.” We don’t learn to speak using short, declarative sentences with specific, active verbs and specific nouns. We tend to ramble around looking for the handful of words and the expression that will communicate an idea. Most of us won’t commit the necessary time and effort to finding the most succinct, powerful sentence to express our ideas.

Exceptions do exist, of course–but not many.

ESL students’ superior compositions skills baffled me–before I began teaching. Now I get it. The problem with teaching Americans how to write well lies in making them unlearn their plethora of oral habits. Many 18-year-olds can’t differentiate between proper (academic) English and slang. ESL students learn English from books and from in academic settings. They don’t have the “write the way you talk” silliness to overcome with English.

d

09/05/06 @ 16:52
Hinermad

Diana,

A lot of what you say applies to design as well as writing. A friend sent me a list of programming quotations today: this is one of my favorites. (I hope the quote formatting holds.)

“You know you’ve achieved perfection in design, not when you have nothing more to add, but when you have nothing more to take away.”

Antoine de Saint-Exupery, Wind, Sand and Stars

I need to hang this in my cubicle somewhere.

Dave

09/05/06 @ 21:11
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Beautiful!

I’m using it. Thanks.

d

09/07/06 @ 19:16
Hinermad

Diana,

Don’t thank me - I don’t write ‘em, I just pass ‘em along.

Dave

09/07/06 @ 22:05
Comment from: Pat
Pat

Hey Diana,

Well, I’m deployed again. This time however, my website is blocked. Yours is the only blog I can access from over here. Is this your personal webspace? Or is someone hosting the blog for you?

Well, I hope all is well in the Springs!

Pat

09/10/06 @ 03:38
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Pat…

Yes to both questions, sorta. Where are you this time?

All is peachy in the Springs. We got snow on the Peak again over the weekend. It’s pretty thick this time. Also, a freak hailstorm hit yesterday and dropped an inch of quarter-inch hail. It’s going to be a booger of a winter, methinks.

Gimme the scoop if you can, mate.

d

09/11/06 @ 15:36
Comment from: Pat
Pat

I’m in Kuwait this time. Lots of fun and definitely nowhere as bad as Iraq. That was hell. There’s nobody shooting at us here! :-) I’m looking for a temporary home for my ramblings. Any ideas?

09/12/06 @ 02:29
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Yeah. I sent you an email a day or two ago. Jeff said he’d be honored to hook you up. Name the space, babe. Check whatever email you type in when you post to my blog for details.

d

09/12/06 @ 21:04
Comment from: Pat
Pat

You may have been “spam” filtered on accident. Hit me at patrick DOT todd AT asab DOT centaf DOT af DOT mil

09/13/06 @ 05:25