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			<title>admin [Member] in response to: thoughts on biblical scholarship</title>
			<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2015 07:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description>&lt;p&gt;Intriguing, Jamie. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#8217;d never heard of it until Mich and I got together. She was raised Church of Christ and at some point decided to look into it (I&amp;#8217;m not sure what provoked her research), and had discovered&amp;#8230;well&amp;#8230;the less-than-1st-Century origin. I&amp;#8217;d long since left the COC and also long since understood and accepted that I was an atheist, but this was still mind-boggling to me. I mean, the origin of the sect is even quite recent. And yet, I&amp;#8217;m sure that most COCers have never even heard of Stone-Campbell. &lt;/p&gt;

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Intriguing, Jamie. </p>

<p>I&#8217;d never heard of it until Mich and I got together. She was raised Church of Christ and at some point decided to look into it (I&#8217;m not sure what provoked her research), and had discovered&#8230;well&#8230;the less-than-1st-Century origin. I&#8217;d long since left the COC and also long since understood and accepted that I was an atheist, but this was still mind-boggling to me. I mean, the origin of the sect is even quite recent. And yet, I&#8217;m sure that most COCers have never even heard of Stone-Campbell. </p>

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			<title> Jam [Visitor] in response to: thoughts on biblical scholarship</title>
			<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2015 05:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><span class="user anonymous" rel="bubbletip_comment_85710">Jam</span> <span class="bUser-anonymous-tag">[Visitor]</span></dc:creator>
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			<description>&lt;p&gt;Interestingly enough, I learned all about the Stone-Campbell movement when going to a CoC in Japan. For some reason these non-American CoC folk, while still super conservative and anti-everything, are more comfortable with the actual history behind the denomination.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interestingly enough, I learned all about the Stone-Campbell movement when going to a CoC in Japan. For some reason these non-American CoC folk, while still super conservative and anti-everything, are more comfortable with the actual history behind the denomination.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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			<title>admin [Member] in response to: thoughts on biblical scholarship</title>
			<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2015 17:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description>&lt;p&gt;Lorraine, thank you for the compliment, but I&amp;#8217;m not sure I&amp;#8217;d call it an &amp;#8220;abusive&amp;#8221; environment&amp;#8211;not based on this, anyway. My therapist, after hearing a fraction of what I&amp;#8217;ve just described, termed my upbringing &amp;#8220;spiritually abusive,&amp;#8221; which I merely find interesting. From the inside looking out, however, people who believe like that are simply dedicated to following/obeying the Lord with all their might, and certainly do not see what they&amp;#8217;re doing as &amp;#8220;abusive&amp;#8221; in any sense. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I do understand why you might understand it that way, though, and many of my Christian friends see it the same, and clearly feel that, had I been raised in a less literal, less legal strain of religion, I might not be an atheist. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Perhaps that is true. I cannot say. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Michelle and I were discussing child abuse yesterday morning, because she&amp;#8217;s reading The Wild Truth, the book by Chris McCandless&amp;#8217;s sister about their upbringing and why he left to go Into The Wild. The book is a study of child abuse, on the level&amp;#8211;according to many people&amp;#8211;of A Child Called It. Michelle reads these books but I cannot stomach them. Michelle remarked that, had my upbringing been different, I might want and have my own family. (She finds it interesting that my big brother is also childless, and my little brothers have, erm, &amp;#8220;troubled&amp;#8221; families. None of us have what could possibly be termed a &amp;#8220;normal, functional family,&amp;#8221; by any stretch. Frankly, until she mentioned it, I never saw it in that light.) &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I think you both make interesting points (if I understand yours correctly), but again&amp;#8230;I cannot say. I only know what is, not what might have been if.  &lt;/p&gt;

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lorraine, thank you for the compliment, but I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;d call it an &#8220;abusive&#8221; environment&#8211;not based on this, anyway. My therapist, after hearing a fraction of what I&#8217;ve just described, termed my upbringing &#8220;spiritually abusive,&#8221; which I merely find interesting. From the inside looking out, however, people who believe like that are simply dedicated to following/obeying the Lord with all their might, and certainly do not see what they&#8217;re doing as &#8220;abusive&#8221; in any sense. </p>

<p>I do understand why you might understand it that way, though, and many of my Christian friends see it the same, and clearly feel that, had I been raised in a less literal, less legal strain of religion, I might not be an atheist. </p>

<p>Perhaps that is true. I cannot say. </p>

<p>Michelle and I were discussing child abuse yesterday morning, because she&#8217;s reading The Wild Truth, the book by Chris McCandless&#8217;s sister about their upbringing and why he left to go Into The Wild. The book is a study of child abuse, on the level&#8211;according to many people&#8211;of A Child Called It. Michelle reads these books but I cannot stomach them. Michelle remarked that, had my upbringing been different, I might want and have my own family. (She finds it interesting that my big brother is also childless, and my little brothers have, erm, &#8220;troubled&#8221; families. None of us have what could possibly be termed a &#8220;normal, functional family,&#8221; by any stretch. Frankly, until she mentioned it, I never saw it in that light.) </p>

<p>I think you both make interesting points (if I understand yours correctly), but again&#8230;I cannot say. I only know what is, not what might have been if.  </p>

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			<title> Lorraine [Visitor] in response to: thoughts on biblical scholarship</title>
			<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2015 02:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><span class="user anonymous" rel="bubbletip_comment_85708">Lorraine</span> <span class="bUser-anonymous-tag">[Visitor]</span></dc:creator>
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			<description>&lt;p&gt;Diana, &lt;br /&gt;
I grieve that you were raised in such an abusive environment.  A bright, inquisitive person like you should have had your intellectual light nurtured from the moment you were born. &lt;br /&gt;
It speaks volumes of your resolve and downright gumption to get an education, go out into the world, and to accomplish what you have and are accomplishing.  &lt;br /&gt;
-Lorraine&lt;/p&gt;</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Diana, <br />
I grieve that you were raised in such an abusive environment.  A bright, inquisitive person like you should have had your intellectual light nurtured from the moment you were born. <br />
It speaks volumes of your resolve and downright gumption to get an education, go out into the world, and to accomplish what you have and are accomplishing.  <br />
-Lorraine</p>]]></content:encoded>
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			<title> Aunt Bann [Visitor] in response to: thoughts on biblical scholarship</title>
			<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2015 01:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><span class="user anonymous" rel="bubbletip_comment_85707">Aunt Bann</span> <span class="bUser-anonymous-tag">[Visitor]</span></dc:creator>
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			<description>&lt;p&gt;Intresting, to say the least! I&amp;#8217;ll probably come back at least once or more, just to understand all you said. I have to think about some of it, too, before I even have a comment.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Intresting, to say the least! I&#8217;ll probably come back at least once or more, just to understand all you said. I have to think about some of it, too, before I even have a comment.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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