my life 2007 - Latest Comments on Thoughts on Reading Concentration https://pdblack.twistedpair.net/index.php?blog=5&disp=comments en-US http://backend.userland.com/rss 60 Roger [Visitor] in response to: Thoughts on Reading Concentration Wed, 24 Oct 2007 13:31:00 +0000 Roger [Visitor] c30530@https://pdblack.twistedpair.net/ <p>I do everything I enjoy slowly. Heck, it takes me 2 hours to watch &#8216;60 minutes&#8217;. I get mad when I read for pleasure too quickly. It&#8217;s too expensive. Slow down and smell the pages. </p> <p>love,<br /> rog</p> I do everything I enjoy slowly. Heck, it takes me 2 hours to watch ‘60 minutes’. I get mad when I read for pleasure too quickly. It’s too expensive. Slow down and smell the pages.

love,
rog

]]> https://pdblack.twistedpair.net/index.php/thoughts_on_reading_concentration?blog=5#c30530 Aunt B'Ann [Visitor] in response to: Thoughts on Reading Concentration Mon, 22 Oct 2007 05:07:13 +0000 Aunt B'Ann [Visitor] c30528@https://pdblack.twistedpair.net/ <p>I&#8217;ve read all you wrote, and all the comments, with pleasure. And I can relate, in many ways! When I was teaching, I, too, had trouble just reading for pleasure. Partly because of the time limits, and partly because everything I read got in the way of enjoyment of reading!</p> <p>As for finding time to read for pleasure, the secret is to find a book (or story, etc.) that you really WANT to read, and then carry it everywhere you go! When you find yourself with a couple of minutes or more, whip it out and read. (I&#8217;ve rarely had to go back to figure out where I left off, even when I had three books going at the same time&#8211;in three different parts of the house!) You can train yourself to read in snippets, just as you trained yourself to run a little at a time, or to write without having to finish a certain section at any one time. The enjoyment is still there, whichever way you go about it.</p> <p>Love reading your writings, Diana! Keep up the good work! </p> <p>Love you muchly, and wish you lived closer!</p> <p>Aunt B&#8217;Ann</p> I’ve read all you wrote, and all the comments, with pleasure. And I can relate, in many ways! When I was teaching, I, too, had trouble just reading for pleasure. Partly because of the time limits, and partly because everything I read got in the way of enjoyment of reading!

As for finding time to read for pleasure, the secret is to find a book (or story, etc.) that you really WANT to read, and then carry it everywhere you go! When you find yourself with a couple of minutes or more, whip it out and read. (I’ve rarely had to go back to figure out where I left off, even when I had three books going at the same time–in three different parts of the house!) You can train yourself to read in snippets, just as you trained yourself to run a little at a time, or to write without having to finish a certain section at any one time. The enjoyment is still there, whichever way you go about it.

Love reading your writings, Diana! Keep up the good work!

Love you muchly, and wish you lived closer!

Aunt B’Ann

]]> https://pdblack.twistedpair.net/index.php/thoughts_on_reading_concentration?blog=5#c30528 admin [Member] in response to: Thoughts on Reading Concentration Sun, 21 Oct 2007 22:03:55 +0000 [Member] c30527@https://pdblack.twistedpair.net/ <p>:) Speaking of preferred contractions, I prefer &#8220;it isn&#8217;t,&#8221; even though it requires more effort to enunciate, over &#8220;it&#8217;s not.&#8221; &#8220;It&#8217;s not&#8221; and &#8220;It&#8217;s snot&#8221; are homophonous. </p> <p>d</p> :) Speaking of preferred contractions, I prefer “it isn’t,” even though it requires more effort to enunciate, over “it’s not.” “It’s not” and “It’s snot” are homophonous.

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]]> https://pdblack.twistedpair.net/index.php/thoughts_on_reading_concentration?blog=5#c30527 Hinermad [Visitor] in response to: Thoughts on Reading Concentration Sun, 21 Oct 2007 20:35:25 +0000 Hinermad [Visitor] c30526@https://pdblack.twistedpair.net/ <p>Diana,</p> <p>But then the contraction is &#8220;I am,&#8221; not &#8220;am not.&#8221; It isn&#8217;t the same thing. Or it&#8217;s not the same thing. Or something.</p> <p>Dave</p> Diana,

But then the contraction is “I am,” not “am not.” It isn’t the same thing. Or it’s not the same thing. Or something.

Dave

]]> https://pdblack.twistedpair.net/index.php/thoughts_on_reading_concentration?blog=5#c30526 admin [Member] in response to: Thoughts on Reading Concentration Sun, 21 Oct 2007 17:13:14 +0000 [Member] c30525@https://pdblack.twistedpair.net/ <p>&#8220;I am not&#8221; may be easily and properly contracted to &#8220;I&#8217;m not,&#8221; Dave. ;)</p> <p>d</p> “I am not” may be easily and properly contracted to “I’m not,” Dave. ;)

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]]> https://pdblack.twistedpair.net/index.php/thoughts_on_reading_concentration?blog=5#c30525 Hinermad [Visitor] in response to: Thoughts on Reading Concentration Sun, 21 Oct 2007 17:06:44 +0000 Hinermad [Visitor] c30524@https://pdblack.twistedpair.net/ <p>Mr B:</p> <p>I may have over-stated my dismay at the state of English use. What annoys me is things like they&#8217;re/there/their errors and to a lesser extent it&#8217;s/its. But my favorite rant is the greengrocer&#8217;s problem. &#8220;Ain&#8217;t&#8221; is a perfectly serviceable word; it fills in the gap in the contracted forms of the negative &#8220;to be.&#8221; (I can say &#8220;you aren&#8217;t&#8221; and &#8220;he isn&#8217;t,&#8221; but I have to say &#8220;I am not"? That&#8217;s not fair.) Besides, I grew up in the Appalachian foothills where it&#8217;s common usage. I ain&#8217;t about to change now.</p> <p>Diana:</p> <p>I think you may be onto something with the differences between reading for business and reading for pleasure. We talked a little bit about that before. You said that your cadets tend to read to find specific answers while you want them to also read for the joy of discovery. (I&#8217;m paraphrasing, obviously, but I think that&#8217;s what you said.) They&#8217;re very different attitudes to have while reading. I think there may be a tendency for us working stiffs to develop the goal-seeking attitude at the expense of the discovery attitude.</p> <p>I wonder, too, if we unconsciously evaluate the risk involved in reading. When we&#8217;re reading for a purpose we have a set goal, and if we don&#8217;t meet that goal we&#8217;ve failed the task. Reading for enjoyment doesn&#8217;t have a well-defined goal; perhaps we&#8217;ve conditioned ourselves to view it as an automatic failure.</p> <p>Dave</p> Mr B:

I may have over-stated my dismay at the state of English use. What annoys me is things like they’re/there/their errors and to a lesser extent it’s/its. But my favorite rant is the greengrocer’s problem. “Ain’t” is a perfectly serviceable word; it fills in the gap in the contracted forms of the negative “to be.” (I can say “you aren’t” and “he isn’t,” but I have to say “I am not"? That’s not fair.) Besides, I grew up in the Appalachian foothills where it’s common usage. I ain’t about to change now.

Diana:

I think you may be onto something with the differences between reading for business and reading for pleasure. We talked a little bit about that before. You said that your cadets tend to read to find specific answers while you want them to also read for the joy of discovery. (I’m paraphrasing, obviously, but I think that’s what you said.) They’re very different attitudes to have while reading. I think there may be a tendency for us working stiffs to develop the goal-seeking attitude at the expense of the discovery attitude.

I wonder, too, if we unconsciously evaluate the risk involved in reading. When we’re reading for a purpose we have a set goal, and if we don’t meet that goal we’ve failed the task. Reading for enjoyment doesn’t have a well-defined goal; perhaps we’ve conditioned ourselves to view it as an automatic failure.

Dave

]]> https://pdblack.twistedpair.net/index.php/thoughts_on_reading_concentration?blog=5#c30524 Daddy [Visitor] in response to: Thoughts on Reading Concentration Sat, 20 Oct 2007 16:53:57 +0000 Daddy [Visitor] c30523@https://pdblack.twistedpair.net/ <p>Let me try this again. I wrote for about 10 minutes yesterday, and it wouldn&#8217;t take it for some reason, and then I slap dab lost it.(the thing I wrote, I mean) :). Well, maybe I lost it too. I didn&#8217;t rewrite, and I aint now. (Go ahead Dave. I know that &#8216;aint&#8217; galls you):D. </p> <p>Anywho, PD, I find that the more I read for info, the slower I get, and when I read strictly for pleasure, I find myself being careful not to miss anything, thus slowing myself more. I find that reading for pleasure is more pleasureable if I get all the info as I go. That is one reason I find it difficult, but enjoyable non the less, to &#8216;read&#8217; audio books. I don&#8217;t rent them or own them. I have a friend who loans them to me when she thinks she has one I would like. But I think, to put it succinctly, that content is both the enemy and friend of reading, and eventually slows us all down searching for the one little chit of info that makes everything make sense. </p> Let me try this again. I wrote for about 10 minutes yesterday, and it wouldn’t take it for some reason, and then I slap dab lost it.(the thing I wrote, I mean) :). Well, maybe I lost it too. I didn’t rewrite, and I aint now. (Go ahead Dave. I know that ‘aint’ galls you):D.

Anywho, PD, I find that the more I read for info, the slower I get, and when I read strictly for pleasure, I find myself being careful not to miss anything, thus slowing myself more. I find that reading for pleasure is more pleasureable if I get all the info as I go. That is one reason I find it difficult, but enjoyable non the less, to ‘read’ audio books. I don’t rent them or own them. I have a friend who loans them to me when she thinks she has one I would like. But I think, to put it succinctly, that content is both the enemy and friend of reading, and eventually slows us all down searching for the one little chit of info that makes everything make sense.

]]> https://pdblack.twistedpair.net/index.php/thoughts_on_reading_concentration?blog=5#c30523 harry [Visitor] in response to: Thoughts on Reading Concentration Sat, 20 Oct 2007 07:25:48 +0000 harry [Visitor] c30521@https://pdblack.twistedpair.net/ <p>Diana - <br /> I think it all comes from the training you gave yourself when you learned to read. Readers such as Noel and myself I suspect trained ourselves to read at a faster pace for several reasons. Mine were, in no order, the knowledge that books were being written faster than I could read all I wanted to, impatience in finishing one book and getting to the next(if you remember I usually had 3 paperbacks every day at school unless one was really thick), and and trying to get a book finished before chores were due. Maybe you simply didnt allow the same motivations to push you to attain higher speeds, or maybe some people just naturally can achieve this. I do know I read slower when reading for comprehension than for pleasure, as pleasure reading is better attained by surface reading and keeping the flow of consciousness in motion. I find myself reading mainly for information now, so I suspect my reading has slowed a bit overall. I hope now that I am retired to eventually slow enough to start pleasure reading again, although the learning I am doing now can almost be considered pleasure reading as it is learning for the sake of learning.<br /> Hmmmmm - this seems to have run on a bit without saying much - I guess what I wanted to say is it doesn&#8217;t matter how fast you read as long as you read. </p> Diana -
I think it all comes from the training you gave yourself when you learned to read. Readers such as Noel and myself I suspect trained ourselves to read at a faster pace for several reasons. Mine were, in no order, the knowledge that books were being written faster than I could read all I wanted to, impatience in finishing one book and getting to the next(if you remember I usually had 3 paperbacks every day at school unless one was really thick), and and trying to get a book finished before chores were due. Maybe you simply didnt allow the same motivations to push you to attain higher speeds, or maybe some people just naturally can achieve this. I do know I read slower when reading for comprehension than for pleasure, as pleasure reading is better attained by surface reading and keeping the flow of consciousness in motion. I find myself reading mainly for information now, so I suspect my reading has slowed a bit overall. I hope now that I am retired to eventually slow enough to start pleasure reading again, although the learning I am doing now can almost be considered pleasure reading as it is learning for the sake of learning.
Hmmmmm - this seems to have run on a bit without saying much - I guess what I wanted to say is it doesn’t matter how fast you read as long as you read.

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